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Citizens of Heaven

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Citizens Of Heaven
Episode #265

With Martha Kilpatrick and hosted by John Enslow

(M) One morning Carole and Julie and I had a, just a little get together, and John couldn’t be there. He had to go to Atlanta on to an appointment. So on his way he had his own meeting, and got a wonderful word.
(J) I was just saying, “Oh, please let me, let me be there.” And so I got this word, and I texted you and you didn’t have your phone with you, and I wrote you an e-mail saying did you get that? And you didn’t respond to it, so I’m going, well, maybe I was totally off. But I got a word, and I’ve been real discouraged and a little fearful, and wrought up by the current events of our nation and our world. And I’ve really been seeking Him. I’ve been looking at Him and saying, “Ok, You’ve got to tell me, You’ve got to talk to me,” because He really gave me a word in two thousand eight or nine about another situation, and it resolved it for me. Though I’ve had problems wrestling with it, at least I can go back to that as the final answer. So, in asking Him about our world’s crisis and situations with the economy, with the Euro, with, the whole presidential campaign, and so on and so on and so on… I mean just open up any news aggregator and scream and yell and run for cover. He said, “It is a good day. The Lord is drying up our independence of Him; our security will remain in Him alone. It is a good day that He’s destroying our country. Our security as Americans will now be our security in His Kingdom. We’re being delivered from a false security, a false hope, a false kingdom. It is a good day. He is unshackling us from a falsehood that prevents us from being His alone. Our patriotism will be one of the Kingdom, rather than of this country. Our security and performance in knowledge, in health, in family ties, in country, in our supply, in our familiar paths, our hope will now be in Him alone. Nothing will bring security but Him alone. Today is a good day.”
(Don in background: Amen, John.)
(J) Amen, God. (John laughs)
(M) I need to read that every day, because it applies to every day, “This is a good day”. I had a point of time when I rejoiced…
(J) As a man He has to pull me back there, because I, I can go on a crusade real easy, and I can get worked up and get fired up and get impassioned and emboldened by different things, and He has to constantly tell me, like we talked in the last couple of podcasts where He says, you know, it’s the will of God and my comfort will be in the will of God. If God is saying to me, and I’m hoping that it’s not just for me, that today is a good day, not a day of fear, that He is releasing me from the bondage of false security. And see, how many years, I mean since World War Two, pretty much, as an American I could go anywhere in the world and feel safe. Now that has been being whittled away as the years have gone on, but I basically could go around and say, I’m an American. I’m an American. And it’s like we’re the only children of the world. We can go anywhere we want to go, we can do whatever we want to do, and we will be taken care of. Our dollar will buy us out of any circumstance or situation that is fearful in the world. And the way the world is now, it is no longer the case. We can’t go wherever we want to go, we can’t do whatever we want to do. And I think that that has been a real false hope and a false security, that we have believed in it so emphatically, and God’s like saying, ‘Let Me reign that in a bit, because your security can never be in a country, to do anything.’ And I feel like He’s just saying this has been such an idol, and I’m leveling it. I’m destroying this idol, so that I can go out into the world and say, “I’m a child of the Kingdom. I’m a son of God.”
(M) It’s not real to us that we are not citizens of this world at all, of any country.
(J) We haven’t needed it.
(M) Yeah.
(J) Until now.
(M) That’s true.
(J) Why would you… We as humans go to the path of least resistance. We will always do that, because that’s who we are. Our body does it. I’ve learned a lot about our body, and about, because of my back injury and stuff like that. I’ve learned that our body will function and move according to the path of least resistance. It doesn’t matter if it looks a little strange if you have to bend a certain way, and it’s not natural. It is the least resistance, and we will go in that position of least resistance, which makes us apathy things that should be doing that. And I think that we have ‘atrophied’ as a people, because we’ve not needed. We’ve not needed Him. We’ve not needed His protection. We’ve not needed His direction. And I’m saying this really very generally, but I don’t feel like I’m off. I do know that there’s been saints in the world that have awesome walks. But I have to confess that I have been rather secure as an American until recently. And now all of a sudden I say… Actually it started probably right before 9-11. All of a sudden I was going ‘I don’t feel as secure as I do normally’. And then the further it’s gone on and the more the uprising has happened, the worse it’s been and the worse it’s gotten.
(M) I’ve recently been in Philippians three and four. And verse twenty says, “But our citizenship is in heaven; and from it we await the return of Christ.” To become as heavenly as we are supposed to be is, for me, a tremendous work of the Lord. To free me from the seeming reality of the world, the nations, the news, the government. And we’ve just had, right in our backyard, three terrorists found, who planned to release Ricin, which is a terrible poison, on the highways of Atlanta. And I met a nurse the other day that said that one of them was just behind her house. She had no idea it was going on. Those kinds of things, I mean that’s all ‘out there’ isn’t it? It doesn’t come to North Georgia mountains. And yet our citizenship is in heaven. That is a mystery to me. If that’s true, and it is, because the Bible says so; how do we get that mentality? That’s what I’m asking the Lord. How do we become so involved in heaven…? Paul was. He said, “I look at the things that are not seen, not at the things that are seen.” The things that we see are not real. The nations and the economy, for the believer in Christ, is not real. The reality is in heaven. We are…Our citizenship, our home, our belonging, our government, our nation is in heaven. It’s not on this earth. And that’s what He’s, really what He’s telling you.
(J) So do you believe that this has been a Shepherd to the sheep, to the wayward sheep… that He’s literally broken our legs to make it the path of least resistance, so that He could Shepherd us to Himself and to His citizenship? That He has made, He has literally broken our legs by, and making it the path of least resistance. Do you see what I’m saying?
(M) He’s forcing us to trust Him, because we will desperately need to believe in Him and to trust Him, and to believe that we live in a different government.
(J) What kindness that is, that He is willing to do whatever it takes to bring His children to Himself.
(M) It’s kindness and its integrity. He has such unbelievable integrity. If we can just realize and hear Him in what He’s doing, it’s, its amazing preparation. I don’t know how… I know that we as born-again believers are supposed to be aware of heaven more than earth. We literally belong to another government that is above this, any government on this earth. Whether it’s family government or national government, whatever government it is, we belong to a government that transcends all of it, and rules all of it, and is not subject to it. We are not subject to the wrongs, the corruption, the defeat, the decline of our power as a nation; we’re not subject to that. I tend to not get involved with the news, because it is irrelevant to me. And I can be, I can make it relevant if I’m not careful. I am trying to keep my eyes on ‘The Government’, on The King of the Kingdom, Who’s the King of Kings. I would love to know… I would love for us to seek the Lord together about coming to know that Government. And it will increase according to Isaiah nine, His government has to increase; and it doesn’t look that way.
(J) Umhmm, umhmm.
(M) But I know that it is. And so what you’ve gotten is that His government is increasing by the collapse of the nations. And I read, I did read the other day, we are on the verge of a worldwide financial collapse.
(J) And at the same time He can say, “Today is a good day.”
(M) He told me at the beginning of the year, “This is a year for you to be ready for what’s coming.” And I so, you know, don’t what to do; haven’t done much. And toward, oh, toward about the ninth or tenth month He said, “This is the year for you to realize I Am ready for what comes.” “I have everything in place for you, you don’t have to get ready.” That’s my presumption of responsible, dependable Martha; I must be ready, and I must make sure you all are cared for and ready. And He’s saying, no this… That’s what, that’s what I would go to, see, oh if I were to get ready, but I don’t know what to do. So He says, “This is the year for you to realize I am ready for whatever comes. I am ready, and because I am ready, you will be readied.” That’s an entirely different view. And He is. But that has to become a reality for us, that we are citizens of heaven. We have nothing on this earth, nothing. We have no security in anything on this earth. We have no relationship to anything on this earth. We don’t have a home on this earth. I look at things a lot of times and think, it’s all going to burn up. What’s the point? What’s the point…
(J) Hmhmm.
(M) of any of it?

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The Lord spoke to John, "This is a good day.'" We are being delivered from a false hope to have hope in Him alone. Phil 3:20 "Our government, our nation, our home is in heaven, not on this earth. We literally belong to another government not of this world, a reign that is over all other governments and not subject to the decline of our power as a nation."

01/15/2012
A from Stittsville, Canada said:
thank you for sharing this sobering message - in December 2011 when I sought the Lord's direction for the coming year, what I heard was "dwell deep" - DWELL deep - which suggested to me 2012 would be a year of many storms and winds and upheavals which will undoubtedly affect the surface of our lives, but not touch our dwelling place if we DWELL DEEP ............ I heard you say Martha some time ago that we worship what we focus on, thus our focus must be God and God alone - as in times of war when the soldiers would dig fox holes and trenches, we must dig deep in order to dwell deep .............. love you all ............
01/16/2012
J from Lafayette, OR said:
Lk 17:20
01/16/2012
CP from Roseville, Calif. said:
Yes, it's true God rules over the galaxies. But the government He is trying to build is Christ in us. God wants to kick self off the throne of our hearts & be enthroned inside of us. When He rules over our hearts, then He can accomplish His will in us on earth.
01/22/2012
S said:
Well, I hear what John heard from Him. When I saw "Lk 17:20", commented there, I got curious about it, and I inmediately went there and I read Lk 17:20-37... I am not sure I have ever received that much revelation about these words. I got stuck... like stopped down. Oh God... a bit dumbfounded even now. I am so excited I would even like to share with you! Read it if you can and let Him show it to you!! It is STUNNING. He is saying so many things. Farisees asked Him about the Kingdom... "when shall it come?" (They were expecting the Messiah to free them from external bonds right in the spot.) Then the Lord begins to speak in an intimate framework!! We are living NOW in the days of the Son of Man. THESE are the DAYS of the Son of Man. He begins by telling you the Mistery of Him inside of YOU. Read it! HE IS "as lighting" (NOW) in those hearts that receive Him, where He is GOD INSIDE, not "here" and "there" as religion (the many "Christs") preaches. THE BODY (we and all those preceeding us) "suffers many things and be disapproved and repudiated and rejected by this age and generation." HE CONSIDERS HIMSELF as PART of a WHOLE BODY in which WE belong! He doesn't see HIMSELF as "separated" from US. Thank you Lord! Then He goes on to explain in the same intimate framework that He will be ultimately manifested to a world that "sells, buys, marries and dismarries, drink, plant, eat and build IDOLS within"... and then He says He will come as when LOT (which is you and me, a sanctified people) gets out of Sodom by the power of the Spirit, (the angels delivering the gospel of truth) that made him out of town... and then He is the NOAH that will take us with HIM in His Everlasting Covenant. And He advises that you can only get into this by losing yourself IN HIM!! Wether you are in the housetop or in the field (whatever you spiritual condition is, as long as you belong to HIM!)... do not try to "get it" or "grasp it"... do not look to Him with the natural mind, trying to aprehend Him in a way HE cannot and willl not aprehended!! Do not look behind, there is nothing in the natural mind! And THEN... we have the final resolution, the final revelation... BOTH will be together, in the "same bed", in the "same field", in the same "grinding work"... but ONE will be taken and the other one will be left... the SON will be taken, and that WHICH DOES NOT BELONG THERE will be left behind in those who love Him! That's YOU. I have both, here, right here! "Where shall it be left?", they asked (Lc 17:37)... the one that is left, left is where the dead body is!! (That thing of you that belongs to earth will be left behind, dead, wiped out!) So, are we not so much more and more debtors to the SON, the Spiritual Mind, the Heavenly Man as He so warns us that only that which belongs THERE will be taken up, in a transformed body of glory? I praise you Lord, for this! Love!
01/31/2012
j from texas said:
this is a VERY good message. the church as a whole has lost this concept and has become very involved in this world's government instead of acting as God's ecclesia- God's governing body in His kingdom- that is what Jesus calls us--His ecclesia--church denotes a gathering of people, Ecclesia denotes a political assembly. I've been getting this message for awhile, and the politics of this world no longer concern me, but the governing of His kingdom under His kingship. there was a cry in the revolutionary was "no king but king Jesus" and that is where i stand.

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